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>> we are opposing the nomination of chuck hagel first and foremost, bill because we are republicans. and as you see have seen. >> bill: so is he? >> yes there are a myriad of republicans who are coming out in opposition to a chuck hagel nomination for a myriad of reasons. secondly we are gay americans. it's incumbent to make him held accountable on gay issues. >> bill: he has apologized of course he is going to apologize. this was a tough question for you. is there a litmus test? so say somebody says, you know, the gay lifestyle, i kind of object to it because of biblical reasons and it just doesn't fit into my religious point of view. does that disqualify that person from holding an important office? >> you have to take these nominations in context. >> bill: answer that question. if somebody said, look, i object on a religious basis to homosexuality or the practice of it, does that disqualify the person from holding office? >> the fact is that you have to take each nomination, each. >> bill: it doesn't qualify him? is that what you are saying to me. >> we don't have a litmus test lo
>> we are opposing the nomination of chuck hagel first and foremost, bill because we are republicans. and as you see have seen. >> bill: so is he? >> yes there are a myriad of republicans who are coming out in opposition to a chuck hagel nomination for a myriad of reasons. secondly we are gay americans. it's incumbent to make him held accountable on gay issues. >> bill: he has apologized of course he is going to apologize. this was a tough question for you. is there a...
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[♪...] >> bill: as you may know president obama wants former republican senator chuck hagel to be the new secretary of defense. some gay americans are fiercely objecting to that saying hagel demeaned homosexuals in the past. here is what happened. 1998 then senator hagel commented on a video james hormel mucking it up with the militant sisters anti-catholic gay group in san francisco. hagel objected to that exposition and opposed hormel's nomination as the u.s. ambassador to luxembourg. ultimately bill clinton did send him to luxenberg. his mounts comments are now coming back to haunt him. this is a little complicated. hagel was objecting to this guy hormel, who was sitting on a news set yucking it up with these militant people out in san francisco. he didn't think that was good. he also said he didn't think a u.s. ambassador should be, quote, flamboyantly homosexual. he considered hormel to be that. >> right. >> bill: is that the reason you are opposing the nomination? >> we are opposing the nomination of chuck hagel first and foremost, bill because we are republicans. and as you see
[♪...] >> bill: as you may know president obama wants former republican senator chuck hagel to be the new secretary of defense. some gay americans are fiercely objecting to that saying hagel demeaned homosexuals in the past. here is what happened. 1998 then senator hagel commented on a video james hormel mucking it up with the militant sisters anti-catholic gay group in san francisco. hagel objected to that exposition and opposed hormel's nomination as the u.s. ambassador to luxembourg....
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chuck hagel writes, so why did we invade iraq? i believe it is the triumph, arrogance and incompetent that took america into this war of choice. chuck hagel, it should be said did not begin his career as a foreign policy apostate, in 2002, he voted for the iraq war. he wanted to tear up the missile treaty we have with russia to build a missile defense shield, and put boots on the ground in kosovo, which was at the edge of the extreme hawkishness. like many in the country, though relatively few in the congress, hagel was changed about the iraq war, he became a cautious critic and ended as an angry opponent. he ended a changed man or at least a changed foreign policy thinker. it was not just the iraq war he began to question by the end. it was the republican party's entire turn towards the unilateral, the very idea that america had the idea to topple the multiple dictators. this is what makes hagel so important, he is one of the few who is changed by iraq. he goes on to write "what the republican foreign policy establishment fears i
chuck hagel writes, so why did we invade iraq? i believe it is the triumph, arrogance and incompetent that took america into this war of choice. chuck hagel, it should be said did not begin his career as a foreign policy apostate, in 2002, he voted for the iraq war. he wanted to tear up the missile treaty we have with russia to build a missile defense shield, and put boots on the ground in kosovo, which was at the edge of the extreme hawkishness. like many in the country, though relatively few...
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there are realists and chuck hagel comes from that camp. and then there are the neo-conservatives, lindsey graham start from south carolina, bill kristol more of that camp. chuck hagel opposed the surge in iraq quite vocally in 2007 and for that he has been seen as a bit an outlier in foreign policy republican foreign policy circles. we're going to see this play out in the next several weeks. >> john: let's talk about the specific controversy. what is chuck hagel's specific record when it comes to israel. >> he has been a long and historyic supporter. he has voted for sanctions against iran and advocateed for diplomat i canic approaches. this mirrors what the american people want. he has consistently supported aide to israel's military and he has great credibility amongst israeli leadership and even the israeli government said last night they don't want to get in the middle of this fight. this is something for the american people to decide, but his record with israel, and we'll see during these hearings will come out and it will be very str
there are realists and chuck hagel comes from that camp. and then there are the neo-conservatives, lindsey graham start from south carolina, bill kristol more of that camp. chuck hagel opposed the surge in iraq quite vocally in 2007 and for that he has been seen as a bit an outlier in foreign policy republican foreign policy circles. we're going to see this play out in the next several weeks. >> john: let's talk about the specific controversy. what is chuck hagel's specific record when it...
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chuck hagel believes in that. i believe he will do everything in his power to ensure that. >> a group of u.s. banks agreed to pay more than $19 billion to settle complaints stemming from the 2008 mortgage crisis. the group includes bank of america, which agreed to a separate settlement. alan fisher has this report. >> the crash in the u.s. housing market was one of the key factors in a global financial meltdown. banks warning people would not be able to pay their mortgage began to foreclose. banks are now admitting they mishandled the process by skipping steps. they also -- rarely offered people the chance to change the terms of their loan. they will have to pay $8.5 billion in compensation. they have been ordered by regulators to carry out a review of all the foreclosures in 2011. people who were on the wrong end of the bank's decision could receive anything from $1,000 to $125,000. 3.8 million people have been affected. critics say the deal allows the banks to escaped responsibility. the deal also allows the ban
chuck hagel believes in that. i believe he will do everything in his power to ensure that. >> a group of u.s. banks agreed to pay more than $19 billion to settle complaints stemming from the 2008 mortgage crisis. the group includes bank of america, which agreed to a separate settlement. alan fisher has this report. >> the crash in the u.s. housing market was one of the key factors in a global financial meltdown. banks warning people would not be able to pay their mortgage began to...
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and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the similarity ends. he's going to join us on the half hour on why he is opposed to chuck hagel for defense secretary. >>> if you got your paycheck on friday and you noticed it was a little smaller, thank the expired payroll tax holiday. guess what else is coming in 2013? higher prices for just about everything on the daily menu, the menu of life. christine romans is here to tell us not only what they are but what we can do about it. start with the grocery store. >> make a list, right? you hear that all the time. your grandmother did it. things are -- prices of things are rising. starts with corns and grains. remember the drought of last summer? also global demand. corn, corn feeds in to -- you use it to feed animals, right? use it to make cereal and snack foods and corn syrup and to feed animals so meat prices likely going to be up 3% to 4%. pay more for the hamburger and already seeing people sta
and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the similarity ends. he's going to join us on the half hour on why he is opposed to chuck hagel for defense secretary. >>> if you got your paycheck on friday and you noticed it was a little smaller, thank the expired payroll tax holiday. guess what else is coming in 2013? higher...
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go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> chuck hagel for secretary of defense. >> chuck hagel will have a fight for confirmation. >> the leader our troops deserve. >> the most antagonistic, it is very difficult to imagine the circumstance in which i could support in confirmation. >> yes, he is a serious candidate. >> chuck haig settle not a responsible option. >> he has people going against him. >> john brennan for direct of the central intelligence agency. >> while i consider myself neither a republican or democrat democrat. >> brennan has a little bit of baggage to become c.i.a. >> i think the president likes the idea of an antagonistic nomination. >> he chose petraeus because he resigned in the wake of the sex scandal into well, as you saw chuck hagel former republican senator from nebraska, nominated to be secretary of defense today by the president himself. let's watch. >> obama: chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an an american patriot. he volunteered for the army and vietnam. he represents the bipartisanship that we need more of in washington. for his independence a
go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> chuck hagel for secretary of defense. >> chuck hagel will have a fight for confirmation. >> the leader our troops deserve. >> the most antagonistic, it is very difficult to imagine the circumstance in which i could support in confirmation. >> yes, he is a serious candidate. >> chuck haig settle not a responsible option. >> he has people going against him. >> john brennan for direct of the central intelligence...
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chuck hagel and john kerry, they're going to lead u.s. national security policy. president tried to preempt criticism of hagel yesterday, in fact, by selling that biography. almost daring critics to vote against someone who had given so much to this country. >> to this day, chuck bears the scars and the shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck knows that war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud u that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. >> that message may be aimed at potential critics, like another vietnam veteran, senator john mccain who hagel split with over the troop surge in iraq. who responded to hagel's nomination saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues and here's the most important part of that quote, "in recent years." he is aware of the quotes he said about hagel six or seven years ago. they've got five purple hearts between them. that's the kind of people we want withdrawing fr
chuck hagel and john kerry, they're going to lead u.s. national security policy. president tried to preempt criticism of hagel yesterday, in fact, by selling that biography. almost daring critics to vote against someone who had given so much to this country. >> to this day, chuck bears the scars and the shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck knows that war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud u that's...
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i have known chuck hagel for years. i have the greatest sense that he is perhaps of all the candidates fa and away the best one and certainly the president has ratified that in the enormously important statement he made today in supporting his nomination of chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. >> ambassador, one of the criticisms is, first of all, that he has not been strong enough supporting israel. in fact, has been too critical of israel. i wanted to give you a chance to address that. also that the real job for defense secretary coming up is going to be budget cutting. getting your arms around a huge organization. i know he is a very successful businessman, but what in his background would make him the best person to find the ways to cut spending and develop the political coalitions with all this accurate simple now from the republican party sf how is he going to get the support in congress to cut things from the pentagon budget? >> there are two important questions here. i address the fiscal one just ver
i have known chuck hagel for years. i have the greatest sense that he is perhaps of all the candidates fa and away the best one and certainly the president has ratified that in the enormously important statement he made today in supporting his nomination of chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. >> ambassador, one of the criticisms is, first of all, that he has not been strong enough supporting israel. in fact, has been too critical of israel. i wanted to give you a chance to...
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you now have chuck hagel, someone that obama worked closely with in the u.s. senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the white house that the susan rice and john kerry were pretty much tied folks going in to that state department gig. president obama going with john kerry but you are seeing the white house going for a full throttled fight to get and to win chuck hagel and n
you now have chuck hagel, someone that obama worked closely with in the u.s. senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as...
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he nominated former senator chuck hagel. the other c.i.a. director, he nominated counterterrorism expert at the white house john brennan. we'll talk about both of them with david sanger of the "new york times" and mark halperin of "time" magazine. >> both mr. brennan and chuck hagel are coming in at exactly the moment when the light footprint strategy has begun to hit some real resistance. the u.s. has not figured out how to intervene in syria in an effective way. it's obviously run into some difficulties in the end of its cyber campaign for now in iran or at least we think it has. so the question is whether or not these two men working together can sort of forge some very new and different ways. >> one of the reasons people have liked chuck hagel over the years, a lot of reasons reporters like him, a lot of reasons his supporters like him is he's a free-speaking guy. he's iconoclastic. he's willing to say things and think about things in a way that's outside not just party orthodoxy but out of the mainstream foreign policy establishment. >>
he nominated former senator chuck hagel. the other c.i.a. director, he nominated counterterrorism expert at the white house john brennan. we'll talk about both of them with david sanger of the "new york times" and mark halperin of "time" magazine. >> both mr. brennan and chuck hagel are coming in at exactly the moment when the light footprint strategy has begun to hit some real resistance. the u.s. has not figured out how to intervene in syria in an effective way. it's...
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those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you think? how tough could this fight get? >> it's looking tough right now. you have some democrats who don't like the comments about gay rights and about israel. you have republicans who don't like his opposition to the iraq wars. you have people on both sides. you don't
those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you...
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a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to surround himself with people he really is friends with and likes. the first term was people like hillary clinton, jim jones, bob gates. they're big names. those aren't necessarily obama allies. brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to
a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack...
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>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some discomfort for him, but remember when president obama came into office, it was he who said we are no longer doing this. this is not who we are as a country, and so if the senate wants to litigate past battles that even the president of the unit
>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of...
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senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement of his own reading in part, "chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his report and exploring his views." at the white house yesterday, hagel didn't address the controversy shoundiurrounding h nomination. >> mr. president, i'm grateful for this opportunity to serve our country again. and especially its men and women in uniform and their families. these are people who give so much to this nation every day with such dignity and selflessness. i'll always do my best. i doll my best for our country for those i represent at the pentagon and for all our citizens. and, mr. president, i'll always give you my honest and most informed counsel. >>> so with the main controversy swirling around hagel and his record on issues like iran and israel, he chose unusually to defend himself in an interview with his hometown newspaper the lincoln star journal. he told the paper "the distortions about my record have been astounding." he added, "there's not one shred of evide
senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement of his own reading in part, "chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his report and exploring his views." at the white house yesterday, hagel didn't address the controversy shoundiurrounding h nomination. >> mr. president, i'm grateful for this opportunity to serve our country again. and especially its men and women in uniform and their...
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you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with...
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. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot, he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as the young private and then sergeant he served with honor alongside his own brother. he'd be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who've been wounded in war and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. a 25-year veteran of the c.i.a. god knows what our national security demands. intelligence that provides policymakers with the facts, strong analytic insights and the keen understanding of a dynamic world. given his extensive experience and travel which is include, by the way, traveling through arabian peninsula where he camped with tribesmen in the desert john has an invaluable perspective on the forces, the history, the culture, the politics, the economics, the desire for human dig anyty driving so much of the changes in today's world. >> rose: joining me now for a conversation about the president's announcement, a look at his evolving fo
. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot, he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as the young private and then sergeant he served with honor alongside his own brother. he'd be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who've been wounded in war and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. a 25-year veteran of the c.i.a. god knows what our national security demands....
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it was the office of chuck hagel was very much in line with those of us who understood that this was a disaster in the making and therefore i think he stands out in a sea of political faces in washington who have drunk the kool-aid on america's wars as someone who very very early on was had the integrity and the intellectual honesty to tell the truth so in light of a lot of obama's continued foreign policy then is not a bit of an odd choice would you think that obama is actually nominating him. well i don't think it is an odd choice in light of the realities that president obama faces he has to bring about some very very serious changes at the pentagon in light of the fiscal crisis in the united states he's got to find a way to cut down on the pentagon budget and that means really changing the military strategy and posture of the united states and i think here jennifer eyes chuck hagel is somebody who would have the grit the honesty the integrity to actually carry that out and so i think that's probably behind his decision to choose chuck hagel at this point carol thanks very much an
it was the office of chuck hagel was very much in line with those of us who understood that this was a disaster in the making and therefore i think he stands out in a sea of political faces in washington who have drunk the kool-aid on america's wars as someone who very very early on was had the integrity and the intellectual honesty to tell the truth so in light of a lot of obama's continued foreign policy then is not a bit of an odd choice would you think that obama is actually nominating him....
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chuck hagel throughout his career in the senate and afterwards. almost a viewpoint that we-- >> despite being a republican. >> absolutely, and i think that's what's misleading here in a way. he doesn't agree with the mainstream republican party, he's being put forward as a bipartisan sort of pick, but throughout his time in public office he says we cannot shape events overseas and we shouldn't get embroiled in the problems in the middle east or challenge russia or china on human rights or democracy and i think that john kerry is pretty much the same way. >> paul: right. >> different from hillary clinton who has at times been much more hawkish. >> paul: the white house would say, john brennan led the counterterror effort inside the white house that's gone effectively after osama bin laden and awlaki and terrorists around the world and don't keep the isolationist business on us, that's not fair. >> i think in the case of brennan that's not a controversial pick. you can have your quibbles with a number of things that brennan has done in his career, a
chuck hagel throughout his career in the senate and afterwards. almost a viewpoint that we-- >> despite being a republican. >> absolutely, and i think that's what's misleading here in a way. he doesn't agree with the mainstream republican party, he's being put forward as a bipartisan sort of pick, but throughout his time in public office he says we cannot shape events overseas and we shouldn't get embroiled in the problems in the middle east or challenge russia or china on human...
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john mccain and others praise senator chuck hagel years ago. we'll take a look at the republican problem there. democratic senator will join us to talk live about the latest on hagel and brennan. >>> protests outside the white house, over john brennan's nomination as cia director. why aren't people talking about the controversy surrounding him more? >> for the american people. >> thank you, america. >> helping people recover and rebuild, this's what we do. >> now, let's bring on tomorrow. >> the ad campaign is called thank you america. that's what aig is saying publicly after being rescued by the bailout. so why is the insurer now considering suing the u.s. government? you can join our conversation on twitter. what can we do with a brand new year, and a room that needs refreshing? we can work with a new collection of carpet that proves durable can be softer than ever. we can get for less and spread that softness even further. turns out, we can do even more than we thought we could. because this is the year of doing. more saving. more doing. tha
john mccain and others praise senator chuck hagel years ago. we'll take a look at the republican problem there. democratic senator will join us to talk live about the latest on hagel and brennan. >>> protests outside the white house, over john brennan's nomination as cia director. why aren't people talking about the controversy surrounding him more? >> for the american people. >> thank you, america. >> helping people recover and rebuild, this's what we do. >>...
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chuck hagel. he is a patriot. he is someone who has done extraordinary work in the united states senate. he served this country with valor in vietnam. he is someone who is currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> to talk more about the nomination of chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we are joined now by ali gharib writes a middle east blog on the daily beast website. welcome to "democracy now!" talk about the controversy around hagel's in in today by president obama or nominated. >> they floated -- the administration floated his name last month and there's been a firestorm of criticism since then that is come mostly from right-wing republicans, but also a little from pro-israel democratics that is based around his views on israel, iran, some comments he made about a decade ago about a gay nominee to the ambassador the last to be ambassador, and just general right wing republican conservative voting record in his two terms in the senate. all of these a
chuck hagel. he is a patriot. he is someone who has done extraordinary work in the united states senate. he served this country with valor in vietnam. he is someone who is currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> to talk more about the nomination of chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we are joined now by ali gharib writes a middle east blog on the daily beast website. welcome to "democracy now!" talk about the controversy around...
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chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets,...
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well, that proposition can be tested by the history of chuck hagel. what was the most important decisions he had to make as a senator? on the iraq war. he reported to have been opponent of the war. after the war went bad and public opinion had turned against it. on the crucial decision of launching the war at a time when the future is indeterminant and time information is necessarily incomplete, he voted to go to war. then when he had the second most important decision on the surge which saved the war and created the conditions where iraq, where we could leave iraq with a democratically elected politically neutral state, he has showed was against it. he led the fight against it. he said that it was morally, strategically wrong. so big decisions he had to exercise as senator, he had it wrong by his own rights on every single count. >> bret: as we have done here. we have taken a lot of time on the hagel nomination. brennan nomination is up, too. steve, perhaps the hagel nomination overtakes that and brennan doesn't face as much scrutiny if it was solo,
well, that proposition can be tested by the history of chuck hagel. what was the most important decisions he had to make as a senator? on the iraq war. he reported to have been opponent of the war. after the war went bad and public opinion had turned against it. on the crucial decision of launching the war at a time when the future is indeterminant and time information is necessarily incomplete, he voted to go to war. then when he had the second most important decision on the surge which saved...
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by appointing chuck hagel as defense secretary president obama is arguably trying to change the perception that he has embraced bush administration national security policies because after four years of militaristic foreign policy that's his people see it chuck hagel former senator from nebraska vietnam war veteran as being one of the very very few u.s. politicians who opposed u.s. military expansion and who dared to question and dissent from washington orthodoxies on foreign policy one of them has to do with israel he's there to publicly point out that the u.s. and israel are separate countries and american interests should trump israeli interests when they conflict and that's a subversive thing to say here in washington could be a career killer yet a catered for direct negotiations with hamas he condemned the power of the pro israel lobby in washington here's one of his statements to that effect the political reality is that the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here i have always argued against some of the dumb things they do because i don't think it's in the interest of israe
by appointing chuck hagel as defense secretary president obama is arguably trying to change the perception that he has embraced bush administration national security policies because after four years of militaristic foreign policy that's his people see it chuck hagel former senator from nebraska vietnam war veteran as being one of the very very few u.s. politicians who opposed u.s. military expansion and who dared to question and dissent from washington orthodoxies on foreign policy one of them...
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i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you think, john? >> i think you know the most important thing to him, the most defining moment is service in vietnam and his brother's service. he was wounded twice. once with shrapnel in the chest. if you go back to the senate testimony or on the senate foreign relations committee and debating the surge, he said if you can't take the heat, sell shoes. people ask me all the time as a jewish american that served two tours in iraq and kosovo, deployed three times, are you on this side or that side and i also answer the same thing, i'm on the side for peace. i've been in war. my brother. it goes on and on and on and defines your life and you can't extract it. chuck hagel's never been able to extract the vietnam experience and not just about war in the future and saying we'll talk to people before we fight them. it's what he did for the troops and then came home. he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids com
i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you think, john? >> i think you know the most important thing to him, the most defining moment is service in vietnam and his brother's service. he was wounded twice. once with shrapnel in the chest. if you go back to the senate testimony or on the senate foreign relations committee and debating the surge, he said if you can't take the heat, sell shoes. people ask me all the time as a jewish american...
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chuck hagel bringing up concerns from democrats and republicans. and as for john brennan, we're seeing the aclu and others speak out about that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against controversial interrogation tactics. that's why brennan dropped out last time he was considered to head the cia. this time, he's courting both sides. >> although i consider myself neither a republican nor a democrat, i very much look forward to working closely with those on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: but brennan's confirmation may not be as tough as chuck hagel's for secretary of defense. >> mr. president, i'll always give you my honest and most informed counsel. >> reporter: he backed some cuts at the pentagon, an issue congress will deal with next month. >> as a successful businessman, he knows we have to make tough fiscal choices wisely. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are concerned hagel is soft on iran and too tough on israel. > >> he's had a record of distinguished service bu
chuck hagel bringing up concerns from democrats and republicans. and as for john brennan, we're seeing the aclu and others speak out about that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against controversial interrogation tactics. that's why brennan dropped out last time he was considered to head the cia. this time, he's courting both sides. >> although i consider myself neither a republican nor a democrat, i very much look...
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nominado para liderar el pentágono chuck hagel >>> sería el primer recluta en ser secretario de defensa, y uno de los pocos que recibieron heridas de guerra, dijo presentándolo juntgo con john brennan, chuck hagel es respetado pre los militares. >> sin embargo algunos republicanos dicen que esto es una controversia del pbos. >>> sería una controversia. >>> ebn el senado inicalmente apoyó la invasión en irak pero pronto fue uno de sus críticos. >>> muchos no lo quieren porque ha sido rebelde en sus decisiones . >>> cuando era senador y en muchas declss después ha estado en contra de sanciones contra enemigos de estados unidos como irán y la dictadura de fidel castro. >>> john brennan también genera controversia. >>> john desarrolló la política anti terrorista y enfrentará cuestionamientos de los fuertes métodos de interrogación de prisioneros e la administración bush. >>> pero se espera que ambso funcionarios sean aprobados, la pregunta es si el costo político debilitará al presidente barack obama . >>> aumenta la trensión en venezuela adias que el presidente de venezuel
nominado para liderar el pentágono chuck hagel >>> sería el primer recluta en ser secretario de defensa, y uno de los pocos que recibieron heridas de guerra, dijo presentándolo juntgo con john brennan, chuck hagel es respetado pre los militares. >> sin embargo algunos republicanos dicen que esto es una controversia del pbos. >>> sería una controversia. >>> ebn el senado inicalmente apoyó la invasión en irak pero pronto fue uno de sus críticos....
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...
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chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg. he was the first openly gay ambassador. appointed by president clinton in 1998. i was at the state department when jim hormel was sworn in bid a lynn albright -- by madeleine albright and tim wu, his partner was there when he was sworn in. we were all in tears watching that historic moment. at the time, chuck hagel said he didn't deserve to be ambassador because he was openly gay and that sent the wrong message. he wouldn't be able to represent all of the people of the united states. i resent that he said that. he was dead wrong but
chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg....
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chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person up enlisted rank to serve the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to leave the department. chuck hagel will our troops the character and strength. they see one of their own. he is a champion and our troops and military family. he thought to give our veterans the benefit they deserve. as head of the u.s.o. he devoted himself to caring for our troops. having studied under the gi bill he helped lead the fight. having co chaired my and a.i.g. board he knows that our armed forces collect and lives depend on good intelligence. he recognizes that american leadership is indispensable in a dangerous world. i saw this in our travels across the mid
chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person up enlisted rank to serve the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to leave...
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most republicans don't see chuck hagel as a stand-up guy anymore. and said the reason he's there, is they're asking republicans, nominal republicans to cut the defense budget, that's one thing to do in republican circles and that's why he's there. >> jon: have the politics of this choice been examined? if you want to fracture the republican senate the way you fractured the republican house with a the fiscal cliff vote you pick chuck hagel. >> it's interesting, and folks went off bill kristol, why he's doing this, and i felt that was manufactured. >> it's an interesting pick though because this would be typically obama's m-o to choose the republican he can get with to try to break apart the republicans in the congress. but the problem with hagel, he doesn't really have any senate allies on either side. he was a very prickly guy when he was in there he has no natural allies. what's interesting, which i don't think really has been covered, is the fact that he was picked because he ended up opposing the iraq war and voted for it and then turned on it. t
most republicans don't see chuck hagel as a stand-up guy anymore. and said the reason he's there, is they're asking republicans, nominal republicans to cut the defense budget, that's one thing to do in republican circles and that's why he's there. >> jon: have the politics of this choice been examined? if you want to fracture the republican senate the way you fractured the republican house with a the fiscal cliff vote you pick chuck hagel. >> it's interesting, and folks went off...
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vigorously against former republican colleague of chuck hagel's. how lives are going to change for men and women of the pentagon and how committed chuck hagel is. so she wants to know even though some of the gay activists and some of the interest groups human rights campaign have said that they accept his apology for what he said 14 years ago. >> well, so andrea, i would say that, first of all, i agree with chuck, and i think that what matters here is that the confirmation hearing, i think, may actually matter for chuck hagel. both in terms of the point chuck made, which is that if there is something sort of that we don't know that comes out, this is not a nominee who can probably with stand something like that. i think it's important that chuck schumer, tammy baldwin, normally if nominees fail, whether it's for supreme court or cabinet decisions, they fail in terms of confirmation because the sort of old party of the president pulls back. with harriet myers it was the uprising amongst conservatives that really doomed her. it seems to me john corny
vigorously against former republican colleague of chuck hagel's. how lives are going to change for men and women of the pentagon and how committed chuck hagel is. so she wants to know even though some of the gay activists and some of the interest groups human rights campaign have said that they accept his apology for what he said 14 years ago. >> well, so andrea, i would say that, first of all, i agree with chuck, and i think that what matters here is that the confirmation hearing, i...
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hagel that has republicans reeling. nbc's tracie potts is live in washington this morning with more on how his pentagon and cia nominations could prompt the next big fight on capitol hill. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. we're already seeing democrats and republicans here with concerns about hagel. john brennan, protests by aclu and others on that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against controversial interrogation tactics. that's why brennan dropped out last time he was considered to head the cia. this time, he's courting both sides. >> although i consider myself neither a republican nor a democrat, i very much look forward to working closely with those on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: but brennan's confirmation may not be as tough as chuck hagel's for secretary of defense. >> president, i'll give you my honest and most informed consens consensus. >> reporter: he has backed cuts at the pentagon. >> as a successful bus
hagel that has republicans reeling. nbc's tracie potts is live in washington this morning with more on how his pentagon and cia nominations could prompt the next big fight on capitol hill. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. we're already seeing democrats and republicans here with concerns about hagel. john brennan, protests by aclu and others on that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against...
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chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. -- fought in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. chuck hagel will give our troops that character and strength. they see one of their own. he is a champion and our troops and military family. as a leader at the va, he fought to give our veterans the benefits they deserve. as the head of the uso, he devoted himself to caring for our troops. he helped to lead the fight for the post-9/11 gi bill. his helping today's returning heroes get their education. he knows our armed forces collect and depend on good intelligence. he recogni
chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. -- fought in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as the secretary of defense. one of the few...
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host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north korea. that is what chuck hagel is talking about. you need to figure out how, given the limitations, it can matter in certain places. that is a realistic assessment. part of the role of the united states is to go into the interior to redesign and so there are less a threat to the united states. when you have limited power, it makes someone like chuck tickle very skeptical of the ability of the united states to do that -- chuck hagel very skeptical of the ability of united states to do that. when he traveled with president obama, a think this was part of this discussion. host: what relat
host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north...
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. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama made the announcement, a handful of republicans came out strongly against hagel. >> he's profoundly wrong on a number of the most important national security issues that face our country today like denying iran nuclear weapons, like direct face to face negotiations with state department designated terrorists organizations like hamas, and calming into question our commitment to our principleal l ally in the middle east, israel. >>> trying to not just score board win after a couple of losses, including the fiscal cliff deal. this fight already looks like a campaign, complete with ads. >> president obama, for secretary o
. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama...